DiscoverDanny Jones Podcast#351 - DNA Expert: New Breakaway Human Species is Evolving in Indonesia | Dr. Melissa Ilardo
#351 - DNA Expert: New Breakaway Human Species is Evolving in Indonesia | Dr. Melissa Ilardo

#351 - DNA Expert: New Breakaway Human Species is Evolving in Indonesia | Dr. Melissa Ilardo

Update: 2025-11-24
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Dr. Melissa Ilardo, Ph.D is a professor of evolutionary genomics and biomedical informatics at the University of Utah. Her research explores human evolution and adaptation in populations that have previously been overlooked or excluded from biological research. Her recent work looks into a population who engages in the practice of breath-hold diving & is evolving on a unique breakaway trajectory from the rest of homo sapiens on earth.




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EPISODE LINKS


https://medicine.utah.edu/faculty/melissa-ilardo


https://www.superhumanlab.org


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/19/science/bajau-evolution-ocean-diving.html


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OUTLINE


00:00 - Genomic evolution of Baju people (sea nomads)


15:00 - How long Baju can hold their breath for


21:19 - All-female Korean free divers (Haenyeo)


32:17 - Lost species of humans


42:44 - Humans won't survive the next 100,000 years


47:50 - Mother of humanity: The real "Eve"


59:48 - Humans are attracted to mates by pheromones


01:06:30 - Why assisted reproductive technology might be harmful to evolution


01:14:57 - Effects of the global population mixing & mating together


01:21:37 - Risks of CRISPR gene editing


01:30:37 - Lifespan & the grandmother hypothesis


01:37:18 - Evolution of un-contacted indigenous tribes


01:40:50 - What future humans will look like


01:49:08 - Intelligence is not genetic

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#351 - DNA Expert: New Breakaway Human Species is Evolving in Indonesia | Dr. Melissa Ilardo

#351 - DNA Expert: New Breakaway Human Species is Evolving in Indonesia | Dr. Melissa Ilardo

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